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7 years 10 months ago #26819 by Joerg Yoki
Joerg Yoki replied the topic: Re:Deerhound history
Hello chrishafod,

Thanks for your interesting informations over your Hounds.

We have in our family 1 Deerhound (my Yoki)and 2 Greyhounds, the 3 Hounds
are great team. They play and run every day of our ground.

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7 years 10 months ago #26821 by Joerg Yoki
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I have found in the internet an old article (year 1952)in the Newspaper "Camperdown Chronicle"/Australia.

Mr. Mummery had the Deerhound Reiver of Geltsdale imported from UK.



Source: Camperdown Chronicle, Tuesday 30 September 1952, page 3

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #26822 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello,

What is the difference between Deerhound and Staghound?
I think a Staghound is result of unknown breeding between Scottish Deerhound, Greyhound and several other breeds or?

I have found an old article (year 1907)in the Newspaper "The Queenslander"/Australia
over this theme.

Source: The Queenslander , Saturday 7 December 1907

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7 years 10 months ago #26823 by Bundaleer
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Yes in Australia a staghound is a crossbred dog, often between a deerhound or greyhound and other breeds such as pointers, great danes, mastiffs etc. They are Australians version of the lurcher but because they are often used to hunt kangaroo or wild boar, they are usually crossed with bigger, heavier dogs than the lurchers are. This website gives a bit of a history www.boardogs.com/Staghounds.htm
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7 years 10 months ago #26824 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello Bundaleer,

Thanks for interesting informations and your link to the web site.


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7 years 10 months ago #26826 by hairybeasty
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Yep...thanks Bundaleer...great site..very informative..ta.. ;)

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7 years 10 months ago #26828 by Joerg Yoki
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Joerg and Yoki wrote:

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Mr. Mummery had the Deerhound Reiver of Geltsdale imported from UK.

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Hello,

Reiver of Geltsdale is from the litter from "Morven of Rotherwood x Irenic of Ross".

Here is a link to the pedigree from Reiver of Geltsdale.

Link: kilbournedeerhounds.com/p....php?code=07017

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7 years 10 months ago #26952 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello,

In the August (2010) issue from "Deerhound" (The Official Journal of the Deerhound Club of Victoria Inc.,Australia) was print the interesting article over Dr. Donald Thomson from THE NORTH QUEENSLAND REGISTER,SATURDAY, MARCH 30, 1935.



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7 years 10 months ago #27071 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello,

Dr.Donald Thomson takes with by the expeditions to the Aboriginals, the most complete anthropological equipment and 3 hounds ( 2 large Deerhounds and 1 Greyhound).

Here is a link to informations over Dr.Donald Thomson (1901 - 1970: Anthropologist, Zoologist and Photographer)and book over him.


Link: www.abc.net.au/rn/history...es/s1476380.htm


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7 years 9 months ago #27726 by Fin
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What a fantastic thread! Would love copies of the photo's - wonderful!

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5 years 3 weeks ago - 5 years 3 weeks ago #40213 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello,

I have found this article with picture.

Source: The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866 - 1939), Saturday 18 July 1896, page 123







Mr. M. Cecil Davies's Deerhound Strathdoon Lassie.—[See "Kennel."]





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4 years 10 months ago - 4 years 10 months ago #40543 by Joerg Yoki
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Here is a link to an Internet-site with the Wolfhound theory.

Citation / source: www.easypetmd.com/doginfo...ttish-deerhound

.....Sometimes referred to as a Scottish Greyhound, the early ancestral history of the Scottish Deerhound is largely a matter of speculation and conjecture. Some theorists believe it to be the same as the Irish Wolfhound or Irish Wolf Dog, albeit with a different name. The crux of this theory revolves around the fact that during ancient times dogs were named according to the work they did, and when their jobs changed, so did their names. Fans of this possibility believe that when Irish Settlers were beginning to establishing themselves in what would later be called Scotland during the 4th and 5th centuries AD, it is likely they brought the early Irish Wolf Dog with them. Found in Irish laws and literature dating to the early 5th century, these early dogs were called “cu”, which has since been translated to hound, Irish hound, war dog, and wolf dog. Over the course of the next millennium as human populations soared, wolf populations would decline to the point that they were considered extinct in Scotland by the end of 17th century; the last of which was reported to have been killed by Sir Ewan Cameron in 1680 in Killiecrankie (Perthshire). The decline and subsequent extinction of the Scottish wolf may have precipitated a change from wolf to deer hunter for the Irish Wolf Dog, and with the change in job, came a change in name to Deerhound. ... ... ...
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4 years 10 months ago #40550 by saorsa
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Great article Joerg.

One of the great heroes of Irish history, Cú Chulainn translates as Culann's hound.

Also Cameron of Lochiel, mentioned in the article killing the last wolf, is a legendary hero in Scottish history.
Here's some info on him...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...eron_of_Lochiel
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4 years 10 months ago #40553 by Joerg Yoki
Joerg Yoki replied the topic: Re:Deerhound history
Thanks Scott for the link.

Here is link to an another historic article.

Stolen Dog- Picts vs Scotts, Hector Boece's, “History of Scotland”-1525

Link to the article: www.easypetmd.com/stolen-...y-scotland-1525


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4 years 10 months ago #40554 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello again,

I found this article over pictish animals.

THE PICTISH ANIMALS OBSERVED
by C. A. GORDON, F.S.A.SCOT.

Citation /Link : archaeologydataservice.ac.../98_215_224.pdf

"DOG

It is characteristic of the unconsciously romantic temper in which these designs
have been studied that the animal depicted on the other carved stone from Ardross
has always been referred to as a wolf.3 Wolves, however, have prick ears which they
never depress except to lay them back in anger. This is a dog and has lop ears, not
very large ones, but clearly to be distinguished, lying on the head above the conventional
shadow curve, which crosses the neck (PI. XXVIII, 3). It also has round eyes,
while wolves have sideways-glancing slit eyes. In short, after due consideration and
a comparison of the Ardross animal with members of the modern canine population
of this country, I would affirm it to be a dog of the variety Canis familiaris intermedius,
a division of the dog family which includes the hound. It is, in fact, a deer-hound.
We have several representations of wolves' heads in the Pictish bestiary: the
head of the composite animal at Manbean4 may stand as the type (PL XXIX, i).
They all stem from the numberless wolves and wolf-heads found in both Celtic and
Scythian art such as the beak flagon from Lorraine,5 or the little animal in applique
from a burial site near Kiev.6 ................"
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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #41650 by Wanda
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What an interesting Topic ... I have found a very interesting page about Deerhound Breeders of the 20th Century, there are so many nice photos - I love the pictures with Miss Noble and her hounds at the coursing field so much. I wish I could have been there to seen it. So here is the link, hopefully.

Sorry, it did not work ... I do not know what went wrong. The link that should be standing here is: www.deerhoundhistory.com

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4 years 5 months ago #41651 by Joerg Yoki
Joerg Yoki replied the topic: Deerhound history
Thank you Sabine for the link to the web site with the many historical photos.

I'll take the link in our directory.

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4 years 5 months ago #41653 by Wanda
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Thank you Joerg. :)

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2 years 2 days ago - 2 years 2 days ago #43300 by Joerg Yoki
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Hello,

Bruce of Abbotsford was the mascot of the 1st Battalion, Tyneside Scottish (ca.1915).
Bruce was a gift of Mrs.Henry Armstrong to Sir Thomas Oliver (hon. colonel of the Tyneside Scottish).






Source of article: Oamaru Mail, Volume XL, Issue 12474, 17 March 1915, Page 4





Source: Tyneside Scottish by John Sheen, Page 44





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