First Cross Deerhound x Greyhound

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3 years 10 months ago #42359 by mr_smith
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Does anyone have experience of this type of lurcher ? I was initially confused by the terminology, but to be clear, I'm talking about DH/GH lurcher bred to DH/GH lurcher, producing a similar type of dog through successive generations.

The things I would especially like to know about are: health and physical soundness - it sounds like deerhounds are susceptible to a few problems, and I suspect the greyhound side carries a few too; temperament - confident this will be good with thorough socialisation, but would like to hear if anyone has found otherwise; pros and cons of large lurchers - previous experience has been with more medium sized lurchers, are the big ones more injury prone with their weight and speed ? I prefer BARF type feeding as far as is practicable, is an extra chest freezer going to be on the shopping list ?; life expectancy ?

Don't think this type of lurcher is all that fashionable and I can't find that much information about them. The North American and Aus / NZ staghounds look to be a similar sort of dog.

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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #42360 by Bodhranlady
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First of all: to me your topic 'first cross Deerhound x Greyhound' would suggest exactly that - a cross of a deerhound and a greyhound. That is what 'first cross' means.As for health and physical soundness, that can't be guaranteed with any dog be it purebred or cross (mongrel). Depends on genetic inheritance, environment, feeding etc. Deerhounds don't seem prone to all that many problems to be honest - I don't know about greyhounds. Temperament is not purely based on socialisation. Genetics play a part there also, as does the very early upbringing. I have known 'snappy' deerhounds (minority), and very snappy greyhounds (more than a few, usually ex racers). Sorry if I offend anyone who has an ex racer, but never met a nice one!

As for injuries - don't really know. Suppose it depends on what you want them to do.

BARF - whatever floats your boat. Personally, my opinion is that pet food companies are not out to poison our dogs, in fact, since the advent of complete diets dogs have lived longer, healthier lives. BARF if you are sure you will never need to use a boarding kennel. I have looked at BARF diets, and, to me, you are not getting all the nutrients needed. I know people who feed this way will disagree but hey - debate is good :-)
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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #42361 by stussy
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I have both a DHxGreyhound and a pure greyhound (and have had a deerhound in the past)



This is my DH Greyhound boy Finlay.... the best words to sum him up ....daft.. idle, cuddlemonster, adores those he loves, and a delightful easy boy :) :) :)






My greyhound is quite neurotic.. but to be fair shes an old lady and an ex racer and it has taken her many years to settle into living in a house, to be honest I find dh x grehounds the best lurcher cross, I also have two bedlington x whippets and they are lovely but cheeky feisty and naughty in comparison to the wonderfully laid back ways of Finn !!

The only down side with finn is if he scans and spots something he has no recall.. but on the plus side he has got loads better the older he has got (he is now 6) and I have learnt to spot when he is getting twitchy and on the lead he goes! at the moment he has pulled a muscle in his leg so is off walks.... to be honest he doesn't care but if he can have a damn good gallop then that's a bonus (as long as he gets a LOT of cuddles) he is a total mummys boy!!

I am desperately trying to stop myself looking for another deerhound rescue, and when the time is right I will get one, but I will always have a dh x grey in my life as well my boy is sooo charming and to me is much more deerhound in nature than greyhound, what more can I say... he is adorable!!

If you want more lurcher advise I recommend having a look on lurcher link, that where finn came from :cheer:

Sorry for the waffle.. but if you can tell im quite proud of my boy!!

Claire x
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3 years 10 months ago #42362 by mr_smith
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Thanks for the replies !

Bodhranlady wrote: First of all: to me your topic 'first cross Deerhound x Greyhound' would suggest exactly that - a cross of a deerhound and a greyhound. That is what 'first cross' means.

That's what I thought as well, but from what I can gather, it does (confusingly) seem common to refer to both DH x GH and DH/GH x DH/GH as first crosses.

I'm keen on this type of lurcher primarily because consensus seems to be that they inherit a good, laidback temperament from the deerhound. The size thing is a bit of a concern: the breeder I spoke to said they grow to between 27" and 29" and weigh 35kg+, which just seems large for such an athletic dog. My old lurcher was half that weight and had plenty of collision injuries, sprains and foot injuries over the years, I do wonder if a heavier and more powerful dog might get hurt more in the same circumstances.

Stussy, thanks for the input and brilliant photos, especially the beach one - he looks about ready to jump up and run like crazy. I hope you don't let the other dogs know Finn is your favourite :laugh:

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3 years 10 months ago #42363 by Ironstone
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Stussy you have a lovely little family there! Very sweet.

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3 years 10 months ago #42374 by trevor
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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #42393 by Doxhope
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First cross means F1 hybrid, a deeround x greyhound or greyhound x deerhound
Crosses of this type can grow to the dimensions mentioned, but, hey ho, many of these crosses do the business in the field. Ive had a couple over the decades, and witnessed many working examples, none of which were injury prone, and few where happered by their physical size. They are also usually longer lived than the pure bred, hardier, have great temprements and are a joy to possess.







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3 years 10 months ago #42394 by mr_smith
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Thanks Doxhope, I'm not worried about the size aspect having taken time to think on it. It's down to a decision between a well bred litter of many times hybridised deerhound x greyhound to deerhound x greyhound (not going to guess at what they're supposed to be called this time :laugh: ) or to give an adult lurcher a second chance and take on a rescue, something that has worked out well in the past.

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3 years 10 months ago #42396 by trevor
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3 years 9 months ago #42405 by Craters_on_the_lawn
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Can I just send a plea that if you are considering between buying a pup or getting a rescue please please get a rescue - lurchers turn up so so often in dog pounds and sadly some do not make it and are put to sleep. So please - save a life. You will be richly rewarded - no dog has ever adored or loved me as much as my rescues.

By the way i have dog that was the result of a DHXGH cross DHxGH and he is 32" to the shoulder! And weighs 45 kg! What can happen in these cases is as the genes are mixed up to produce the offspring its possible that any one pup can get more of the DH genes from each parent and that is what I think happened with our Henry, as he is in almost every way true deerhound in personality, looks, shape, size, etc. You really can't tell what you will get!

Disadvantages of giant lurchers - I needed a bigger car!
He has a sofa instead of a dog bed!
He's pulled me over a good few times!
We had to keep adding extra height to our garden fences to keep him in!
He hoovers the kitchen table so easily!

Advantages - I don't trip over him!
No-one has to bend down to stroke him/cuddle him!
I get lots of admiring comments when walking him in public!

He's now 6 and has never had any health problems. But seriously, get a rescue. If necessary get a rescue DHxGH - there are alot of them about. (mine is a rescue too!)

"Saving just one dog won't change the world, but the whole world will change for that one dog"

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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #42422 by 3HOUNDS
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Craters_on_the_lawn wrote: DH genes from each parent and that is what I think happened with our Henry, as he is in almost every way true deerhound in personality, looks, shape, size, etc. You really can't tell what you will get!

He's now 6 and has never had any health problems. But seriously, get a rescue. If necessary get a rescue DHxGH - there are alot of them about. (mine is a rescue too!)


Where are they all then as we've been looking casually for some time? dh:)

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3 years 9 months ago #42424 by Doxhope
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Genuine first cross deerhound x greyhound are almost true to type, they can vary slightly in height, their colour with either be brindle with some blacks
They rarely resemble pure bred deerhounds in fact on over 30 years I have never seen a first cross that looked like a deerhound
Temperament wise anything with deerhound in their genetic make up will usually be spot on

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3 years 9 months ago #42429 by Craters_on_the_lawn
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deerhound x in rescue:

Suzy shropshire.retiredgreyhou...opt-a-greyhound
Florence (I definately suspect some deerhound in there, although no grey coat):https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/dog/filters/~294~~~~n~/1115148/florencerhubarb
Lucy: www.dogstrust.org.uk/reho...n~/1125893/lucy
Misty: greyhoundgap.proboards.co...lurcher-special (if you scroll down several posts it is confirmed that she is a grey x deerhound)
Archie (possibly deerh x?):http://mimsmum.proboards.com/thread/29116
Scamp (deerhound/wolfhound): mimsmum.proboards.com/thread/28662
Sophie:http://www.dogsblog.com/beau-sophie/
Storm (possible deerhoundx?):http://www.rspca.org.uk/findapet/details/-/Animal/STORM/ref/BSA2035225/rehome/
Marley: greyhoundrescuewales.co.uk/dogs/marley/

That's what I've just found....I'm sure there are more out there. If you are still keenly looking I strongly suggest you post in "Homes offered" on Dogpages. Its the biggest dog rescue forum and so many of the members are active/ or run their own rescue centres so if there are any deerhound xs out there in general rescue centres then they will spot them. Link:http://www.dogpages.org.uk/forums/index.php?showforum=3
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3 years 9 months ago #42430 by 3HOUNDS
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Thank you for all this information but I've seen most of these.. Some are just too far away from us in Hertfordshire, others too young as we're looking for an older less exuberent dog, Misty has special needs, some are a pair or were reserved when I contacted the rescue so perhaps the wait will be longer. We might just stick with our three greyhounds.

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3 years 4 months ago #42790 by Jonnie
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Hi Everyone,

having just joined this site I thought I would pose this question. We have an eleven year old GREW X DH. (GREYHOUND / WHIPPET) We are trying to find out if anyone knows of any DH X GHs in the south west. We know there used to be a breeder in Leicestershire but we are going back a few years now. We only see the odd one in rescue and they are usually too far away. We are in Cornwall. Thanks.

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