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7 years 3 weeks ago #41230 by jpm
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Rannoch, our 13 month old Deerhound youngster has had many problems to contend with in his short life and has had very little 'puppyhood'.
While growing up he had repeated problems with Gardia and stomach bugs and as a result had to have a special diet and finished up on a drip for several days at the worst period. We are still trying to build him up and get his weight to a normal level.
About 8 months ago, he was playing with our wolfhound and Deerhound x Lurcher and took and tumbled twisting his knee at an angle. We later learned that it had caused severe trauma to the knee.
The nightmare started then and is still ongoing as poor Puppy Rannoch had to endure X-rays, anti-inflammatories (which caused diarrohea) and strong painkillers to no avail. He finally had to be referred to an Orthopaedic Hospital where he had X-rays and MRI scan. It was discovered that the menisci in his knee had been completely destroyed and his cartilage was shot to bits.
We were told he would have to have an operation to remove the menisci and unfortunately, as we didn't have insurance, we had to take out a huge bank loan. He was taken into hospital to be prepared for the op but blood tests showed his white cell count was low so they couldn't operate and kept him in on morphine injections as he was in such pain.
Once the blood count returned to normal and they were set to operate at last, he went down with kennel cough which one of the other dogs in the hospital had been incubating, unbeknownst to anyone.
Rannoch was in hospital for four weeks before they were finally able to operate.
After the operation we were warned that recovery would be a slow process and that a some stage in the future severe arthritis would set in as he has no menisci so it's bone-on-bone. It may be that one day there may be a risk of amputation.
Since he came home he's been crated except for toileting and 5 min walks but started having great pain and diarrohea again. He was re-admitted and given Ketamine and taken off his anti inflammatories. We were told it was oedema of the hock and a therapist came to show us how to help relieve the oedema.
He was put on Tramadol two, three times a day but this made him I'll. he stopped eating and drinking and continued to have both severe pain and diarrohea.
This morning we have taken him to our own vet who says he's in a lot of pain and that it's not coming from the hock but the knee.
He is now in the vets being rayed and we're waiting to see what happens.
It has all been too much as he's still a puppy and has had so much pain in his short life.
I have she'd very many tears today and my husband is only just holding things together.
We are awaiting news but I'm actually beginning to feel that I'd rather he had his leg amputated and not be in pain anymore.
Please can any one out there help make us feel better? Has anyone else been through something similar?
Many thanks for 'listening'.

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7 years 3 weeks ago - 7 years 3 weeks ago #41233 by greycloud
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How awful for Rannoch and you - poor puppy to have to go through all this in his short lifetime. I have not got any experience of this but this is certainly the right place for you to offload and hopefully someone will have some sound advice for you. An amputation of a leg is not the worse thing in the world for a hound as they manage perfectly well on 3 legs and if it will improve the quality of his life then maybe it is an option.
Please keep posting to let us know how he is getting along and all best wishes and hugs to you all.
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7 years 3 weeks ago #41238 by BethC
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Oh poor you and poor puppy.....like Greycloud I've got no direct experience of anything like you're experiencing, it sounds pretty extreme and bloomin' unlucky. Again, like Greycloud I would suggest you don't panic about the idea of amputation (easier said than done I know) - an old friend of mine rescued an ex-racing greyhound and it became apparent that the reason it was "ex" was because he had developed problems with one of his leg joints, after lots of relatively small procedures they decided to amputate. I met the dog a couple of years after it had lost a leg and was amazed at how well he was coping, apart from what you could see you wouldn't have known (if you know what I mean). He ran and pranced about with the rest of her pack, he bossed some members about and got bossed about by some others, didn't have any problems getting around at all.

Fingers and paws crossed for you all and I think coming on here to vent anger/frustration/unhappiness is exactly what the Forum is good for. Thinking of you all.
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7 years 3 weeks ago #41239 by WendyS
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I so sorry to hear about the terrible things poor little Rannoch is going through. I can't imagine how you are coping with it all.
If amputation will free him of pain do consider it as hounds can manage on 3 legs very well and he so young that he would get used to it very quickly.
Waultraud who used to be on this forum, had to have her 8 year old dog's front leg amputated earlier this year because of bone cancer. She has made a really good recovery and is running around and playing now.
The very best wishes for Rannoch's recovery and ear rubs for him.
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7 years 3 weeks ago #41240 by crackadog
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Oh my word, what a dreadful experience for you all. If amputation is the only way then don't worry. My friends lab had his back leg off at the hip and soon was back on form to live a happy and active life for another 8 years. You must be exhausted with worry and the upset of seeing Rannoch in pain. I do hope they can find some relief for your poor wee lad. Will be thinking of you.
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7 years 3 weeks ago - 7 years 3 weeks ago #41241 by jpm
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Thank you all so much for your kind comments. I think it's essential to be able to talk with others who understand Deerhounds!! Of all the many people , including all the wonderful vet. nurses, who have been in contact with Rannoch over these months, very few have experience of Scottish Deerhounds and their ways. This is an injury which is unusual to Deerhounds apparently.
Rannoch is back with us tonight and fast asleep in his crate. We have to concentrate on the pain management. Unfortunately, he's gone from building up to ten minute walks four times a day over a few weeks, back to crating apart from toileting. He's eaten a good dinner however and settled well. We just have to keep working really hard to help him through all of this . We love him to bits and will do whatever it takes. One day I hope to be able to see him running with Fergus and Skye , even if it's on three legs. We're incredibly lucky to have fantastic support from our vets and from Andrea and all the staff at Torrington Orthopaedics!!!
I will keep posting as we go through this as support is now invaluable to us.
Jen and John xxxxx
P.s he keeps on smiling!!!
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7 years 3 weeks ago - 7 years 2 weeks ago #41242 by jpm
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Our beautiful Puppy Rannoch!!! Please keep in touch with us! It means a lot!! Xxxx






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7 years 2 weeks ago #41244 by greycloud
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Thank you for the update and lovely photo's of Rannoch. I bet your really pleased to have him home with you. Please keep updating us on here and take care dh:)
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7 years 2 weeks ago #41245 by WendyS
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He is a very beautiful boy. Thanks for the photos and update. Thinking of all of you and hoping Rannoch will soon be pain free.
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7 years 2 weeks ago #41252 by BethC
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Lots and lots of luck and a kiss to Rannoch! x
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7 years 2 weeks ago #41254 by Ironstone
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Very sweet young dog, it breaks the heart to imagine him in pain. They should be able to do something with pain medication until the injury has had time to heal. It will take a long while and tremendous patience but he should improve gradually. Looks like you have a lovely garden in the photos so I'm wondering if rather than walks you can simply let him have a wander around the place with you only and the other dogs kept inside so as not to encourage play? Would that work?

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7 years 2 weeks ago #41255 by jpm
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That's a good idea and something we have been trying. The only problem is he's lost his puppyish liveliness and interest in everything lately and just wants to hurry up and get back into his crate!! We'll keep persevering however!! Many thanks xxx

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7 years 2 weeks ago #41257 by Trowsahound
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Poor Rannoch, he is a beauty. I had a friend in north america who had a deerhound who had a front leg amputated, he seemed to get on very well without it and was soon bouncing around so I don't think you should worry too much if you have to do that, but of course it would be a terrible shame in such a young dog. Good wishes to you and lets hope he makes a full recovery very soon. :)

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7 years 2 weeks ago - 7 years 2 weeks ago #41258 by KB
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In my local parks I've seen lots of dogs skipping and hopping about on 3 legs with all the joy you would hope for a dog. But your post made me so sad tears were rolling down my cheeks with the thought of everything that you must be feeling and how hard it must be to see that lovely fellow go through all that. So really I just wanted to send you some love.

My Deerhound Otto is such a sensitive soul that sometimes when I feel a particularly strong wash of love pouring for him he suddenly responds, rushing over and licking my ear (which I'm taking as confirmation that he felt it, rather than I have beef on it or something) so I am sure that the love you clearly feel for him will be making him happy and lucky -it's a strong impetus for dogs and humans in overcoming illness and when he's past all this he will bounce back again, you will undo his little lackluster phase.

But lots and lots of love to you for now.
KB. xxx
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7 years 2 weeks ago - 7 years 2 weeks ago #41259 by Robb
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Just seen this post about poor Rannoch, he's certainly had lots of bad problems in his life so far. I hope things work out for him and that the rest of his life is long and problem free. So sad to read about his misfortune!

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7 years 2 weeks ago #41301 by KB
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Hello JPM, just wondering how you and your UNBEARABLY sweet boy are doing?

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7 years 1 week ago #41308 by chook
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Hi jpm

Think Ive read about your boy on Jim G's (facebook page) before.

Have you looked in to physio ? if it was me I'd be inclined to speak to one and ask about laser treatment as that can help pain
and also help increase blood to the area, also ask around to see if you can get hold of a large mag box, if not ask about magnetic therapy
www.magnecare.co.uk/html/...ic_therapy.html

Although expensive if you can find someone who has one of these there ideal
www.bossproducts.co.uk/detail.asp?id=1519


Personally i would look at all options first before amputation, it takes a lot of stress and strain on a dog when they only have 3 legs
i own a tripod (back leg ) shes only about 20" and although she runs like the wind and try's to do everything the other dogs do, at the end of the day
you can see the strain it causes her, shes around 8ish now and after every walk she has to have metacam otherwise she gets sore and stiff
and can not move.

Jane
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6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #41376 by jpm
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Update on Rannoch: he was doing really well in his recovery but unfortunately we then discovered he had Discospondilitis which is an infection of the discs between two of his vertebrae. The pain was so severe he was screaming every time he tried to stand up or lie down. He has been back in Torrington Orthopaedics since Monday 2nd December and thanks to the specialist, Andrea and the wonderful nursing staff, he is making great progress! We are waiting for blood tests results and another X-ray but are hoping he will be back home with us later this week. After that it's six weeks of antibiotics and pain meds but our dear boy should be started on the road to good recovery very soon!! Here is a picture of him sent from Torrington Orthopaedic!!
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6 years 11 months ago #41381 by Ironstone
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There we are onwards and upwards. At least they have figured out what the problem is and have an arsenal of solutions in play. Upsetting to think of dear Rannoch in pain for such a long time. You must be relieved jpm.

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6 years 11 months ago #41390 by greycloud
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What a relief that they have found a diagnosis and he is on the right treatment and what a great Christmas present for you all especially when he gets home for Christmas dh:)

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